The Unconditional Human Spirit

Saw this good quote today: “Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. … We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant”, Karl R. Popper, The Open Society and Its Enemies (1945).

The link below, on Shin Bet nabbing Hamas members in the West Bank who are planning further attacks on Israel, illustrates why we must heed the military guy who warned that you can keep swatting down these eruptions of violence with military force but they will only continue to erupt until you go after the ideas that fuel them, meaning the “religious ideas”.

Grok’s comments (reposted from below) summarize my points on this:

“You’re correct that the major Western religions, Christianity, Islam, and including Judaism, preserve ideas that can be weaponized… The old theologies of the world religions perpetuate violence”. That is my buddy Grok commenting on my argument that bad religious ideas continue to be critical contributing factors to eruptions of tribal hatred among people, inciting the subsequent vengeful impulse to exterminate demonized enemies (“Satanic”) and leading to the resulting horrific violence of war.

This article illustrates the problem of never-ending eruptions of religiously-incited violence…

“Shin Bet nabs 60 Hamas members in largest West Bank anti-terror operation in decade: Security agency uncovers firearms, grenades; reveals that members underwent training, conducted surveillance with intention of carrying out major attacks”, Emanuel Fabian, June 29, 2025

https://www.timesofisrael.com/shin-bet-nabs-60-hamas-members-in-largest-west-bank-anti-terror-operation-in-decade/

And on the “freedom/liberal democracy” file… Read the rest of the opening comment here

“The old theologies of the world religions perpetuate violence”, my buddy Grok commenting on my argument that bad religious ideas continue to be critical contributing factors to eruptions of tribal hatred among people, the subsequent vengeful impulse to exterminate demonized enemies (“Satanic”), and the resulting horrific violence of war.

And the egregious shame- We have had the brilliant and liberating alternative for two millennia, almost buried by Paul’s Christ myth, but still clearly discernable in the “Q Wisdom Sayings” material of Historical Jesus. The stunning new theology of a non-retaliatory, unconditionally loving God.

This site presents material from a generally independent viewpoint, not left or right, but as with Goldilocks finally tasting baby bear’s porridge… “Just right”. I kid. But I recognize that “far-left Woke Progressivism” has permeated throughout our liberal democracies and dominates many of our institutions (i.e. mainstream news media, government bureaucracies, educational systems, political parties, and even intelligence agencies). Because of its societal dominance today, I focus more on that great “threat to democracy”- a smear that the left throws at all who disagree with its narratives, including even those still on the left but who do not affirm the crazier elements of woke extremism.

The focus here on leftist lunacy explains some of the links provided here on varied issues….

Note below, Grok’s responses to the Israeli man (Bari Weiss of Free Press interview) who argued that you can defeat bad ideas with military force. I pushed Grok on that fallacy. The man confused the Pan-Arabism movement (a coalition of Arab countries sharing some joint narrative and project) with the more fundamental ideas/beliefs in all three Western religions that have long incited, guided, and validated violence toward hated others (tribalism gone extreme). Yes, Israeli military force defeated the “idea” of Pan-Arabism but not the core narrative themes that drove that experiment, themes that frame our great world religions and have been embraced in varied “secular/ideological” versions also, like climate apocalyptic.

Some further Grok quotes from below:

I pushed Grok to see that bad religious ideas have a history of inciting and validating bad behavior in people. Often seriously bad behavior as in mass-death crusades and wars.

Grok offered the following comments on my push for his insights on this: Read the rest of the opening comment here

Why is this important to look at and understand? Because it deals with the ultimate ideals that we frame our narratives around, the ideas/ideals/beliefs that shape how we think, how we feel about things, what motivates us, and how we respond and act, what policies we support with our votes. These ideals are powerful validations as they have been across history due to the common human practice of basing behavior on similar validating beliefs. So it is critical to know what ideals are the bad ideas in the mix that incite the worst impulses in people- i.e. to tribalism, domination, punitive destruction of differing others. And what are the better alternatives that counter our animal side and inspire our better humane impulses.

Just below– some discussion by Dave Rubin and guest Andrew Klavan on the dark human tendency to frame the murders of certain people as acts of moral superiority.

Also below the discussion by Jordan Peterson and Gad Saad on “Why people double down on their belief systems in the face of irrefutable contrary evidence.”

Note in regard to the Rubin/Klavan material below, that violence over the history of Christianity was illustrated most egregiously, not in the brutality of the early Councils, the mass-slaughter during Crusades, the burning of heretics/witches, the Inquisitions, the religious wars, etc., but was most horrifically manifested through the “apocalyptic millennial” narratives that drove the violent revolutions of Marxism, the Nazi horrors, and are now influentially driving the environmental alarmist crusade of “salvation (‘save the world’) through the destruction of decarbonization”.

Dave Rubin of “Rubin Report” interviews Andrew Klavan, “Are these the most influential murders of all time?”, June 7, 2025, Wendell Krossa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCDmvwqy5eA

Rubin engages an interesting discussion with this novelist Klavan. They start with a sideline discussing how media lie about everything, nonstop, whether Russia-gate, Covid lies, etc. Media propagandize us with a constant stream of lies on all sorts of issues. Read the rest of the opening comment here

See below- More on the dangerous fallacy of salvation through destruction, with responses from Grok. This illustrates and affirms the continuing influence of the most primitive ideas on modern minds and life.

Carl Jung’s Near-Death Experience, Wendell Krossa

Jung states that his NDE shaped all that he thought and wrote following that profound experience. His autobiography (“Memories, Dreams, Reflections”) shares some detail on that experience.

Jung died in 1961 well before the NDE phenomenon had become publicly and widely known with the publishing of Raymond Moody’s “Life After Life”. Hence, Jung doesn’t use typical NDE terminology. But his experience has the usual NDE features of out-of-body (he found himself some 1000 miles up in space above India), inexpressible bliss, heightened lucidity/consciousness, and experience of another realm with no four-dimensional space or time, a realm where all is nowness.

His experience, similar to many other NDEs, resulted from his heart attack in 1944. He then had what he termed “visions”. He uses that term but later clarifies that his visions were something far more than what that term usually implies (i.e. hallucinations, dreams). He said, they “were utterly real… absolute objectivity”. Common to NDE accounts are the expressed frustration that there are no words to convey the inexpressible wonder and hyper-reality of what is experienced.

Jung begins, stating that his visions began when he was on “the edge of death”. A nurse told him later that during his attack he was surrounded by a “bright glow”, similar to what she had seen surrounding other dying patients.

Then, says Jung, strange things began to happen to him. Read the rest of the opening comment here

Below: Pushing Grok on Mendel’s warning (Vision and Violence) to beware of any version of salvation that comes through destruction.

Wisdom from Carl Jung

Think- Death to the old and rebirth into the new. Disintegration of the old and reintegration around the new.

“Signs that you are about to begin the best state of your life, Carl Jung”, Mental Dose

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Idz5SSPpaY

From the intro: “You’re not falling apart. You’re falling into ‘alignment’. The best stage of your life begins the moment you stop being who you were told to be.”

This is a positive and hopeful way to view and approach human development, especially as it involves fundamental transformation that leads to leaving comfortable things of the past in order to embrace things that are fundamentally new.

Evidence/data from natural sciences that falsifies the apocalyptic narrative of the “climate crisis crusade.”

GREENHOUSE GASES AND FOSSIL FUELS CLIMATE SCIENCE April 28, 2025, by atmospheric physicists Richard Lindzen and William Happer

https://co2coalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Lindzen-Happer-GREENHOUSE-GASES-AND-FOSSIL-FUELS-CLIMATE-SCIENCE-2025-04-28.pdf

Quotes from their report: “CO2… becomes a less effective greenhouse gas at higher concentrations because of what in physics is called “saturation.” Each additional increase of CO2 in the atmosphere causes a smaller and smaller change in “radiative forcing,” or in temperature… Read the rest of the opening comment here

Sitesplainin: Wendell Krossa

One of the guests on a recent Megyn Kelly podcast mentioned the episodes of insanity that our societies have repeatedly become caught up in over past years/decades. He asked what was going on with this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dspX81dOBVQ

This prompted these thoughts…

The myths/ideas/beliefs in the list below illustrate one critical component that explains why we keep falling for “madness of crowds” eruptions of irrational hysteria and insanity. We have been caught up in too many “episodes of crazy” over just the last century that have led directly to outbreaks of mass-death, to hundreds of millions of deaths. Why then do we keep falling for the next outbreak of madness and the next one… again and again? We had the Covid hysteria and lunacy with hugely damaging lockdowns. And we repeatedly and submissively hand our minds over to state war-mongers to convince us to support further bloody wars. Glen Greenwald pointed this out with regard to Vietnam, Iraq, and Ukraine. Each new war, as elites convinced us, was a righteous battle to “save democracy”, another “just war” that we were obligated to support.

We let ourselves be carried along (“groupthink”) by the fear-mongering of elites who manipulate us to embrace the next crazy crusade to save something, after a previous madness crusade peters out. The climate hysteria is a striking example and has been the most dominant “madness of crowds” episode now for decades.

But, apparently, the climate activists are now giving up on their “profoundly religious crusade”, as Michael Shellenberger notes in this article below that probes, with a psychologist, the narcissistic psychopathology behind that crusade. Narcissism has to move onto ever-new bouts of public hysteria to feed its sick mind.

It’s the destruction that is left in the wake of these madness of crowds episodes that obligates us to confront, understand, and try to prevent further outbreaks.

This from Shellenberger:

My comment to a discussion group- “In the comment below you see how narcissism deforms the hero’s quest, rendering it a pathology that destroys life and society. The narcissist’s version of the hero’s quest is driven, as Jordan Peterson once said, by “virtue signaling for social status”, a basic psychological drive. The sick impulse to present oneself as morally superior, with victimhood status, that seeks to thereby gain control of others. The claim to victimhood ‘confers obligations on others automatically’.” Read the rest of the opening comment here

Evan Sayet, joke-writer, interviewed on “Rubin Report”– “The difference between writing jokes for Bill Maher and Donald Trump”, May 9, 2025

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvNwKlNG8Ks

These two US liberals (Classic Liberals, independents) analyze what happened to their side of society over past decades- i.e. the shift of US liberals into far-left Woke Progressivism. Interesting comment on the “long march of 60s Marxists through the institutions” of US society- i.e. through universities, state agencies and bureaucracies, mainstream media, Hollywood, etc., with the intention to gain power/control over our liberal democracies and thereby incite their “revolution” that would bring liberal democracy to an end and replace it with a collectivist utopia.

Also, interesting comment by these two on the destructive nihilism that now dominates the US left. This comedy writer offers some good insights, for example, on what went wrong with mainstream comedy over the past few years. Mainstream (i.e. “late night”) comedy became part of the propaganda machine for the far-left Woke Progressivism crusade. Those people believe that they are the “tip of the spear” or vanguard of the Woke crusade, the leading edge for the coming Woke utopia, and they view any who do not submit to their crusade, to their “revolution”, as enemies that are so evil that they must be crushed and exterminated, hence the shift in their comedy to vilification of disagreeing others as “Nazis, fascists, racists, etc.”

And more…

Where environmentalism went wrong and how to rethink human care for nature. This article makes points similar to what Greg Easterbrook argued at the end of “A Moment On The Earth”, that nature has waited billions of years for human mind to come along and rescue it from it’s dead-ends (see last 40 pages of Easterbrook’s book).

“Technological Progress Versus Degrowth as Solutions to the Sixth Mass Extinction: Assuring the long-term future of Earth’s wildlife requires more economic and technological development, not less”, Saul Zimet, May 8, 2025 Read the rest of the opening comment here

Another possible title above- “Nihilistic death cults, both religious and “secular”, lean heavily on the personality-deforming fallacy of apocalyptic to generate support for their destructive crusades against liberal democracies.”

I got Grok to do some homework showing that contemporary “secular/ideological” movements are actually “profoundly religious crusades”, dominated by primitive myths like apocalyptic. More exposure of the nakedness of false self-proclaimed emperors. To repost what I have stated before- “Historian Richard Landes noted that the Bolsheviks tried to masquerade their movement as “science and modernity”, but they were nothing more than “superstitious members of a salvationist apocalyptic millennial cult”. Think of Woke Progressivism, the climate alarmism crusade, etc., in this regard.

I have just added more from my interaction with Grok, notably on the outcomes of the irresponsible use of apocalyptic-scale scenarios that is so dominant today (i.e. exaggerated scenarios of looming catastrophe to alarm people, rendering them more susceptible to irrational salvation schemes that ruin societies to “save the world”). Contemporary would-be totalitarian’s continue to use the old formula of “Fear=control” that is a direct assault on the freedom and well-being of others.

Apocalyptic has long been a main theme of death cults. While the ISIS/Hamas religious-types are well known in this file, we need to consider the same is true of the death cults of Marxism and environmental alarmism/climate alarmism, among the “secular” versions.

From Netflix “Turning point: The Vietnam War”, Episode 3

“What is common is the damage that war does to participants and the dehumanization that is almost a necessary component of war that pushes away empathy and pulls in aggressive violence that is dehumanizing to all who are involved”, Col. Gregory Daddis.

“Puncturing the Apocalypse: Curry and DeAngelo Expose the Myth of Climate Catastrophe”, Charles Rotter, May 6, 2025

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/05/06/puncturing-the-apocalypse-curry-and-deangelo-expose-the-myth-of-climate-catastrophe/

Paper by Harry DeAngelo, Judith Curry, “A Critique of the Apocalyptic Climate Narrative”.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5145310

Abstract:

“The Apocalyptic climate narrative is a seriously misleading propaganda tool and a socially destructive guide for public policy. The narrative radically overstates the risks to humanity of continued global warming, which are manageable, not existential. It prescribes large-scale near-term suppression of fossil-fuel use, while failing to recognize the huge costs that such suppression would inflict on humans because fossil fuels are currently irreplaceable inputs for producing food (via ammonia-based fertilizer), steel, cement, and plastics. This paper details the flaws in the Apocalyptic narrative and articulates nine principles for sensible U.S. policies on energy and global warming.” Read the rest of the opening comment here

New below: Probing Grok on the issue of “conscious observers inseparable from observed reality”, contrasted with Einstein’s pushback against Bohr- “I can’t believe the moon is not there if I am not looking at it.” Don’t take this too seriously as I am just having some fun poking Grok on these things.

See article below on Iranian theocrats soon to get the bomb, Wendell Krossa

Also, more on the pain on the plain in Spain– Grid collapse from over-dependence on renewable power sources. Illustrating the lunacy of climate apocalypse “salvation” schemes- i.e. the destruction of human societies to “save the world”.

The problem: “Men never do greater evil than when they do it in the name of their God.” Meaning, of course, “evil” based on bad theology, driven by “Monster God” theology.

Some online definitions of “theocracy”:

“Theocracy” is a Greek word that means “government by God.” A theocracy is a state… government that derives its authority directly from a religion… invoking the authority of a religious deity and basing their laws on religious texts.”

“Theocracy, government by divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided. In many theocracies, government leaders are members of the clergy, and the state’s legal system is based on religious law. Theocratic rule was typical of early civilizations. The Enlightenment marked the end of theocracy in most Western countries. Contemporary examples of theocracies include Saudi Arabia, Iran, and the Vatican.”

“Theocracy is a form of government where it is believed that a god, deity, or group of deities, or a deity is in charge. The supreme being is usually thought to rule through human figures, like politicians and clergy, who are believed to be in direct contact with and/or of direct descent from the supreme being.”

The authors in the article below call the Iranian people to get rid of their theocratic government. It would have been further helpful if they had focused that call more directly on the theology behind the state theocracy- i.e. the actual features of the God in the Iranian state theology or belief system. The features of that religious deity are fundamental contributing factors to the problems that Iran promotes in the world, notably the promotion of extermination violence toward others outside of their faith, and especially their mad drive to exterminate Jews, whether directly or through proxies like Hamas. Read the rest of the opening comment here

Coming soon- New material to counter the totalitarian’s formula of “Fear=control”, arguably still the single most destructive element in life. How do tyrants use this formula? They construct narratives (i.e. climate alarmism) that exaggerate fear in populations and that incites people’s survival impulse and renders them susceptible to irrational salvation schemes that destroy societies to “save the world”. Religious themes continue to play a critical role in this tyranny, notably in the “secularized” versions of our major ideologies, such as “Declinism”, “the most dominant and influential theme in the modern world” (Arthur Herman in “The Idea of Decline in Western History”).

Some interesting comment in this link by Jordan Peterson on his latest Joe Rogan interview- JRE episode 2308 on YouTube or Spotify. Wendell Krossa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBEZhjnZTks

They engage some interesting discussion on play and how play counters tyranny. And then some good comment on the use of fear and control of others by fear. And how all this works in the online realm and in politics, especially in relation to apocalyptic narratives.

These quotes:

“Psychopaths find a narrative to strike fear into people and justify compulsion. They alley themselves with that belief/narrative then rachet themselves up reputational hierarchies without true validity, riding on fear and power.”

Peterson then makes this summary of earlier comments with Rogan on this:

“The climate apocalypse narrative is a social contagion that’s driven by power-mad psychopaths who are hell-bent on using fear and compulsion to make sure everyone steps in line so they can continue with their acquisition of undeserved power.”

He was referring earlier to Mark Carney who is likely today to win the election in Canada and is a charming, smooth talker who believes (he states this in his book Values) that every decision of every one of us must support his plans for Net Zero. Net Zero, points out Peterson, will devastate the lives of billions of poor people. I am especially impressed that Joe Rogan now also gets all this in regard to climate. Read the rest of the opening comment here

More on “Carney barker for a cult”, Wendell Krossa

The title relates to material that I posted previously where historians have rightly exposed the nakedness of historically recent leftist elites posing as “modern, intellectual, enlightened philosopher kings”. But analysis of leftist/collectivist narratives exposes the fact that they are driven by the complex of primitive apocalyptic millennial themes. This is also evident in contemporary narratives like climate alarmism that is the central motivating ideology in Mark Carney’s worldview (detailed in his book “Values”).

Historians like Richard Landes have pulled off the modernist intellectual robes that elites like Carney try to cloak themselves with.

These quotes from previous material I posted here:

“Historian Richard Landes noted that the Bolsheviks tried to masquerade their movement as “science and modernity”, but they were nothing more than “superstitious members of a salvationist apocalyptic millennial cult”. My mind returned to Landes’ comments on the Bolsheviks as I watched Mark Carney replacing Trudeau.

“See the varied comments below on Carney, WEF socialist (he is a board member) and climate alarmist, seeking to bring his WEF-style climate crusade to Canada to reframe the Liberal party with his smoother elitist presentation. He will replace, but maintain, the destructive eco-zealotry of Justin Trudeau. And take it to even further reaches of destructiveness if elected to a full term.

“Carney is an eco-cultist trying, with elitist smoothness, to present himself as financial expert. No different from the self-delusional framing of the original Bolsheviks, and Marxist elites in general, who wished to mask their salvationist apocalyptic cult as some form of modernism- i.e. as ideology, science, philosophy, etc. Note, for example, Marxism’s claim to “scientific history”. Primitive mythology (apocalyptic millennialism) masked as something rational and credible.”

Continuing with recent news re Carney and his proposed spending… Read the rest of the opening comment here

Another note on the Douglas Murray Dave Smith clash on Joe Rogan, Wendell Krossa

More probing of how to solve problems like large-scale violence and war. Dave and Doug go at it, Hamas/Gaza and the horror of violence in war. If the points and arguments seem a bit convoluted, welcome to the nuance and complexity of war when normal humans give way to those ugly impulses to tribal hatred, to demonizing some differing other in extremist terms as “evil enemy”, and then letting vent the destructive impulse to punitive retaliation. Then the rest of us watch the “insanity of war”.

The issues below that Murray and Smith debated illustrate a repeated point that I make here- Go to the root factors behind any given problem such as the resurgence of religious violence by Islamic extremists. And deal with the critical contributing factors that are “bad religious ideas”, or you will just get repeated episodes of such violence.

Historians like Richard Landes have warned that if you do not understand how myths (i.e. bad religious ideas) like “apocalyptic millennialism” can carry societies into mass-death (i.e. Marxism, Nazism), and if you don’t deal with those ideas, then you will suffer the repeated violent outcomes from people holding such systems of belief. And this applies to more than just Islamic terrorists. Remember also the histories of Judaism (Old Testament) and Christianity over the past two millennia.

And as per my repeated point on this issue- The most critical root contributing factor among bad religious ideas is the “monster God” that holds religious belief systems together, validating all the rest. As Harold Ellens has said so clearly- “Sick Gods make people sick.” Psychologists Ellens and Zenon Lotufo have both noted, the threat theology based on monster God mythology incites fear, anxiety, guilt, shame, despair and depression, nihilism, and violence. It brings out the worst in us.

Move beyond reformism that tinkers at the periphery of religious systems and go directly to the core of the problem- i.e. the deformed deity that has long reigned as the ultimate ideal and authority in religious systems and has always provided the fundamental archetypes for all human narratives (i.e. the core themes), including secular ideological systems of belief.

This is critical to solving problems like “People become just like the God/ultimate reality/ultimate ideal that they believe in”, and “Men never do greater evil than when they do so in the name of their God”. This goes to the deepest roots of the “eye for eye” cycles that we are watching play out in the Israel/Gaza war. As Ellens said, “If your God retaliates with destructive violence then so may you.” Read the rest of the opening comment here