Before posting some intro comment on Bob Brinsmead’s new essays, here below is some interesting interaction with Grok. Some of it deals with the greatest fraud and lie in history, Paul’s transformation of the Jewish Jesus into the Gentile Christ, a Hellenized deity that contradicts entirely the very message and life of Historical Jesus. Bob has written some very good material on this issue. Wendell Krossa
Bob’s comment has to do with primitive narrative themes, long buried as archetypes of the human subconscious, from where they have influenced people to construct endless new religious belief systems shaped by the same old complex of themes. Paul embraced those very themes to construct his Christ myth. They are ideas that have now influenced people in the modern era to shape contemporary narratives- i.e. “secular/ideological” systems of belief- with the same psychopathologies.
Using those themes to incite, guide, and validate human behavior, has repeatedly resulted in brutally harmful consequences in human societies. Note for example that those themes drove the mass-death movements of Marxism, Nazism, and are now driving environmental alarmism.
And also probing with Grok what the universe means.
Another note:
The current crusade to “revive religion in society” (noted, for example, in “Free Press”) appears to be ignoring the major issue of merged good and bad in religious traditions. That push for some general revival of religion, leaving psychopathologies in place, denies the fundamental responsibility of all of us to discern between good and bad and then eliminate the bad. The process of discernment and cleaning up our systems of belief is fundamental to human development and maturing, whether in the overall history of humanity or in our personal life stories.
Bob and I are pointing to fundamental ideas/themes that have shaped meta-narratives across history and calling attention to the ideas/beliefs in the religious mix that have incited and validated the worst impulses in people to harm others across history. These ideas are still prominent in the world religions and have been passed on to and embodied in the secular/ideological traditions of the modern era.
Examples of bad ideas/elements in religious traditions: Interesting that the opening story of the bible- i.e. Adam and Eve in Eden- is the presentation of a deity that is angry at human curiosity to know the difference between good and bad. Hmmm? Kinda petty, similar to the myth of the waterworks god Enlil pissed at people having too much fun (too many people talking too much and too loudly) and threatening a flood apocalypse to destroy them all. Just for partying?
Then Charles Templeton pointed out another of these “bad” ideas in that the Old Testament God demands to be the constant center of attention and demands constant praise of his greatness, on pain of death if not done. Templeton is right that is more like an Idi Amin character, than anything remotely human. (While appreciative of Templeton’s insights, I do not go with him to his atheist conclusions.)
Authentic love does not selfishly demand constant attention but denies itself to focus on others and serving others, much like the true “greatness” that Jesus advocated. So, if “God is love and God is great”, then some bad ideas in the mix need to be pointed out and discarded. Otherwise, you get too many people finding validation for their bad behavior from bad ideas in these respected religious traditions. Read the rest of the opening comment here