Undifferentiated religious traditions (mergers of “diamonds/dung”) do not properly ‘defeat the idea’ driving violence and war

Other topics further below: “Calls for undifferentiated religious traditions do not properly ‘defeat the idea’ driving violence and war”.

Grok on how unconditional love plays out in responsible criminal justice (not shifting into unworkable pacifism). How Jesus’ “stunning new definition of deity” relates to a realm of oneness, as contrasted with our realm of dualism between good and evil. And more of the best of AI discussion on “theology/spirituality/religion” anywhere.

Misunderstanding and misapplications of unconditional as ethical ideal. Newer trends in theology/religious speculation and belief- i.e. panentheism, process theology.

Psychedelics (e.g. DMT) to access the “more real” spiritual.

Materialist science cannot and will not answer/explain everything. Valuable as it has been, it will never get to a complete TOE, to a totalizing worldview. Grok summarizes the different ways of human “knowing”- i.e. subjective, intuitive, faith-based knowing.

Grok on Harold Ellen’s critique of atonement theology deforming human personality (i.e. wrathful deity images and the barbarism of human sacrifice). Zenon Lotufo on religious pathologies promoting violence (same critique as Ellens).

Current research status on consciousness studies. More on Jung, NDE research, Jefferson’s approach to the Jesus/Paul contrasts (“diamonds versus dung”). Ultimate reality versus this material realm of dualism.

Restorative justice principles and extremes. The Q tradition and Paul, James Tabor on Paul. Etc.

This just below is an interesting discussion of science and the “spiritual”, or metaphysical, with this lady, Michelle Thaller. She offers a humble response regarding what is unknown by science. Her attitude and approach is refreshingly openminded toward things that she has no expertise with, that may be true, but her science is not able to access or evaluate. She acknowledges there may be greater realities that are currently not measurable due to the limitations of science.

She offers comments that are refreshingly more humble than hardcore and dogmatic materialist types too certain of what is invisible and still unproven. Certain that all explanations and conclusions will be affirmations of dogmatic philosophical materialism. Just like the dogmatism of religious cults. Read the rest of the opening comment here

Posted in Uncategorized | Comments Off on Undifferentiated religious traditions (mergers of “diamonds/dung”) do not properly ‘defeat the idea’ driving violence and war

AI on the most profound thought/statement ever, transforming narratives and shaping freedom in a liberal democracy future

After initially posting the material further below at the top of this site, I then asked Grok if we could simplify some of the Jung and Campbell concepts, terms, and overall language for a wide audience of diverse countries and people. The full material that is referenced in this opening comment is just below the note “Now on to the original posted material…”

Grok, regarding this section,

“AI on the most profound thought/statement ever, transforming our narratives and shaping our freedom in a liberal democracy future”

My request to you is for many people not familiar with Jung, Campbell and others who are covered in the material further below, could we simplify and summarize the concepts, points, and applications for average folks? A kind of general easy-to-access narrative for varied people across the world, at all social levels. Thanks.

I am trying to communicate to people from the some 100 countries who regularly visit this site and who may not be familiar with English as a first language.

Its not about “speaking down” to anyone but just keeping concepts, terms, and language in common phrasing that is accessible to a wide audience of differing people and backgrounds.

We may already doing this in the best possible way. Your thoughts.

Grok replied:

Here’s a simplified, accessible summary of the main ideas in that top section of your site. I aimed for clear, everyday language that works for people worldwide, including non-native English speakers and those from many different backgrounds. No fancy academic terms— just straightforward points, like a friendly conversation. wendellkrossa.com

The Big Idea: The Most Important Thought in Human History

Many people across time have wondered: What is the deepest truth about life, the universe, and why we exist? What is “God” or the ultimate power/reality really like?

Your site argues that the single most profound and game-changing insight ever is this: God (or the core of all reality) is unconditional love.

• “Unconditional” means: no requirements, no “if you do this, then I love you.” No favorites, no punishments for not believing the right things, no revenge.

• It’s like the sun and rain that fall freely on everyone— good people and bad people alike. No strings attached.

• Jesus (the historical wisdom teacher, not the later religious versions) summed it up something like: “Love your enemies unconditionally, because God does.” Be merciful and generous like that. True greatness isn’t about controlling or dominating others— it’s about serving and respecting their freedom. wendellkrossa.com

This flips older ideas upside down. For thousands of years, most stories and religions pictured ultimate reality (God) as angry, tribal (us vs. them), demanding sacrifices or perfect behavior, threatening punishment, or ruling like a harsh king. Jesus said the opposite: the heart of everything is generous, forgiving, restoring love that wants the best for all.

This insight is called the real “Theory of Everything” that matters— more important than science theories about the physical universe— because it answers the deepest human questions: Why are we here? Are we safe? How should we treat each other? wendellkrossa.com

Why It Got Buried and Why That Matters

The site notes that this simple, liberating message got mixed up and covered over in later Christianity (especially through Paul’s writings, which brought back ideas of conditions, sacrifice, wrath, and threats of hell or apocalypse). It’s like hiding a diamond under a pile of old stuff. Many thinkers (including Thomas Jefferson and Leo Tolstoy) said we need to separate the beautiful core (“diamond”) from the rest (“dung” or clutter) to see it clearly. wendellkrossa.com Read the rest of the opening comment here

Posted in Uncategorized | Comments Off on AI on the most profound thought/statement ever, transforming narratives and shaping freedom in a liberal democracy future

The highest of human achievements is available, equally, to every person in their daily life.

New material below at the bottom of this opening section: I asked Anthropic Claude to analyze and summarize these top three opening sections. See its response below. Also, some defense of AI as net beneficial, I mean “big net beneficial”. This is my counter to the current whipping up of hysteria over AI as the next “existential threat to humanity”, all to replace the dying climate apocalypse crusade. And Niall Ferguson on Free Press sets forth the geopolitical issues in the necessary pursuit of AI dominance. Its liberal democracy or collectivist totalitarianism worldwide. Your choice.

Quotes from Grok below…

“The single most revolutionary and valuable discovery in human spiritual history is that ultimate reality— God, the divine, the Ground of Being— is unconditional love…

“This insight is more important than any materialist Theory of Everything…

“There is nothing more important you can discover or know in this life than the truth we lay out below. It is the single most profound insight ever expressed by a human mind— the real Theory of Everything that actually matters. It towers above every materialist TOE that Hawking and others chased before conceding they had no answer and could only “learn to live with mystery.

”This is the key that unlocks humanity’s oldest and deepest quest: Why does anything exist? What is our purpose here?…

“This directly supports the unburied Jesus insight (radical, unconditional mercy) over conditional religious overlays.”

(End of quotes)

Note my quibble below with a Grok/AI tendency to “balance/qualify” points being made. I appreciate that reminder but sometimes it misses my intention to counter things that have long been given public dominance in humanity’s great narratives, both religious and secular/ideological. I am opposing this dominance with counter points that are needed. Qualifying/balancing can weaken a necessary counter point or emphasis.

Also interesting comment and summary on evolutionary psychology input into inherited animal impulses and our exodus/liberation from the “evil triad” (impulses to tribalism, domination, retaliatory destruction) that continue to infect and ruin modern life.

And much more…

Note Grok finally coming through on the “superlative profundity” of the unconditional insight. As Gutfeld discussed recently on one of his panels- You have to learn how to prompt these AI.

If you prefer, you can skip over the initial Jung stuff in Grok’s opening material and go further down to its catching on to my superlative profundity points (i.e. as it said in response to my prompting- “Yes. Let’s cut the qualifiers”).

I asked Grok:

Please explore Carl Jung’s statements that “religions got God all wrong.” Jung was not clear on the central thing that religions got wrong which was the “unconditional” theme in Jesus’ new theology. Read the rest of the opening comment here

Posted in Uncategorized | Comments Off on The highest of human achievements is available, equally, to every person in their daily life.

More probing of the “profundity” (i.e. depth, brilliance, profoundness, etc.) of what was stated two millennia ago and was subsequently buried by Paul’s Christianity.

This is about what could have been the greatest liberation in history- i.e. the liberation of human minds, emotions, motivations, and subsequent transformation of behavior- like nothing before. The insights/discovery of one notable man could have impelled the grand exodus of humanity out of animal existence and toward more truly human existence in liberal democracy civilization, as nothing else ever could have.

Note below the detailed exploration and coverage of the “Hero’s Quest” as it applies to all of our life stories.

Grok, I previously asked you “What would be your choice for the most profound thing ever thought and spoken? My choice would by the summary of the message of Historical Jesus to ‘Love your enemies unconditionally because God does’.”

Your replies are posted at http://www.wendellkrossa.com/

in the top section titled “Most profound thought to ever emerge in a human mind? Most transformative statement to ever come out of a human mouth?”

I want to continue that point with some refinement, asking you “Is there any greater transformation in understanding of reality and the actual nature of reality, if the stunning new theology of Historical Jesus is true?” Read the rest of the opening comment here

Posted in Uncategorized | Comments Off on More probing of the “profundity” (i.e. depth, brilliance, profoundness, etc.) of what was stated two millennia ago and was subsequently buried by Paul’s Christianity.

Most profound thought to ever emerge in a human mind? Most transformative statement to ever come out of a human mouth?

Joe Rogan Experience #2507 – Harland Williams”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51ds7IU7ZL8

At the 1 hour 9-minute mark (30 seconds later) Harland gives a positive view of AI as a great tool to help us rise to something higher, to assist us in heading to where we are meant to go. He says AI is not to be feared even though, as with all new things, some will abuse it. AI will help us unleash our creativity and enable us to get to where we are going as humanity. AI will especially help common people to develop and express their creativity.

See other links at bottom of this top section. One where Rogan discusses quantum entanglement and how that relates to human oneness. As Bob Brinsmead applies this, what we do to others we do to ourselves. A new take on “Do unto others what you would have done to yourself.”

Here is some pushing of AI on the most profound insight and statement ever spoken.

I am more than fascinated with the discovery or insight of the wisdom sage quoted often here. I take his message as something entirely non-religious in its essential content. Unfortunately, he was commandeered by another person who embedded him in a religious context that deformed much of what the wisdom sage had taught. But his essential content can still be pulled out and extricated/disentangled from the deforming religious context.

Grok,

What would be your choice for the most profound thing ever thought and spoken? My choice would by the summary of the message of Historical Jesus to “Love your enemies unconditionally because God does.” Read the rest of the opening comment here

Posted in Uncategorized | Comments Off on Most profound thought to ever emerge in a human mind? Most transformative statement to ever come out of a human mouth?

What counters our worst, brings out our best? Plus- “Endless assaults on freedom”

Further below: My argument that the central themes of Historical Jesus (those buried by Paul’s Christology) undergird liberal democracy principles, laws, and representative institutions. Point? Historical Jesus went to the archetypes that shape human thought, emotion, motivation, and behavior. The comment below is more from my view of this wisdom sage as someone who presented an entirely nonreligious complex of ideas/principles but was then absorbed into another religious system (“Christ-ianity”) that buried his “diamonds” (distorted, weakened, undermined and contradicted outright). Yes, I am affirming Thomas Jefferson’s pushback against Paul.

See below the AI summaries of the basic principles, laws, and representative institutions of Classic Liberalism also known as liberal democracy. Its good to know exactly what we have discovered that brings out the best in us (and counters the worst in us) and why it is worth defending with our lives.

But first this…

Endless assaults on freedom, Wendell Krossa

Many of us try to understand the varied fronts of assault on liberal democracy today. We see differing lines of attack- i.e. the “long-game” backdoor Marxist/collectivist approaches. Note, for example, Joe Rogan’s repeated playing of a 1984 video by a KGB guy who warned that they would infiltrate Western institutions like education to indoctrinate new generations. Or his guest Mike Benz who exposes the behind-the-scenes infrastructure of censorship and narrative control to shape how citizens think. Add the influence of WEF “soft” socialism-types that favor China’s hard-core totalitarianism as their preferred model for world governance.

Totalitarians like the Chinese leadership have publicly stated their long-game intention to overthrow liberal democracy and install their totalitarianism worldwide. As with the KGB guy noted above, they have infiltrated Western institutions like education to indoctrinate new generations of Western youth. The KGB guy even warned that they would employ “pre-bunking” where they would indoctrinate the citizens of western democracies with the idea/belief that anyone who tried to expose the infiltration by the collectivists would be dismissed and discredited as a “conspiracy theorist” even before any such exposure took place.

That would be part of the general control of public narratives through control of Western media. Yes, Jimmy Dore was right that we are lied to constantly, indoctrinated, manipulated and controlled. Think climate alarmism, Covid lies, etc. We got some insight into this far back in the 1970s through the Frank Church Committee hearings that revealed some 400 state agents and affiliated people (CIA and others) were controlling the main media outlets. Over subsequent decades the ideology energizing such people shifted from right to the far-left of today (i.e. Woke Progressivism with DEI). Read the rest of the opening comment here

Posted in Uncategorized | Comments Off on What counters our worst, brings out our best? Plus- “Endless assaults on freedom”

“The error of a perfectionist God”- Bob Brinsmead

Continuing with the battle of good against evil, the most basic of human struggles for meaning and purpose.

If historians like Richard Landes (“Heaven on Earth”) are right that “apocalyptic millennialism” beliefs had a significant influence in driving the Marxist revolutions of last century with the mass-death outcomes that we now know resulted, and if he is right that this same complex of beliefs also drove Nazism with its mass-death totals, and if he is right that these same core themes in Paul’s Christology are driving the apocalyptic crusade of climate alarmism, then apocalyptic millennialism (also known as “salvation through violent destruction”) is, as Arthur Mendel said, the most violent and destructive idea in history. (He referenced specifically “apocalyptic”)

And it is then beyond egregiously irresponsible to continue to cloak this evil as good, as divine, to continue to defend and protect it in our major world religions and in “secular/ideological” variants.

Adding to the sense of egregious irresponsibility is that for two millennia we have had the entirely opposite complex of themes in, for example, the humane message of Historical Jesus. Further, notable public figures have made clear the striking contrasts between the message of Jesus and Paul’s entirely opposite themes. I am referring to public figures like American Founder Thomas Jefferson who bluntly termed the message of Jesus “diamonds” as contrasted with Paul’s Christology as “dung”, or “the product of lesser minds”. Leo Tolstoy added his similarly blunt descriptives of Paul’s contrary message.

Some of you will be highly offended by such blunt language. See the section below on the AI comment on the psychology of true believer rage at challenge to core belief systems like Paul’s Christ myth. We get that religious rage is a survival response. We see this rage in the response of that Jewish audience to Jesus’ first public presentation of his stunning new theology of an unconditional God. Rejection of the long-standing belief in vengeful, retaliatory God incites murderous rage in true believers.

The challenge here is to responsibly acknowledge the proven history of outcomes from the beliefs that we embrace in our narratives. We know now from, for example, the continuing eruption of violence in the contemporary Islamic theocracy crusade (notably Iran) that people do become just like the God that they believe in. We know how dangerous bad ideas/beliefs are because they incite and validate the worst of our inherited impulses to (1) tribalism, (2) defeat and domination of differing others, and (3) vengeful, violent destruction of differing others. These are the “evil triad” impulses inherited from our animal past. (Qualifier: The same violence has stained the histories of all three major Western religious traditions.)

And, though this will be difficult for many to even consider, the “salvation through destruction” that energizes the Iranian theocracy crusade, that same complex of basic themes also motivates the climate apocalypse crusade. Again, check out the research of historians like Richard Landes, Arthur Mendel, David Redles, Arthur Herman, and others who are repeatedly referenced on this site.

This battle against the inherited animal is fought most critically inside each one of us. As Solzhenitsyn wisely stated, the real battle of good against evil is not fought at the societal level of one class against another. The real battle against the real evil in life is an intensely personal battle that takes place inside each one of us. Joseph Campbell also referenced this with his “Hero’s Quest” framework that helpfully outlines our individual life stories. Read the rest of the opening comment here

Posted in Uncategorized | Comments Off on “The error of a perfectionist God”- Bob Brinsmead

The psychology driving defensive rage at challenges to fundamental religious beliefs.

You can’t mix entire opposites in one merger. Jefferson and Tolstoy understood this.

More on the separation, the necessary differentiation between Jesus and Paul. If you are going to recommend the revival of a traditional religion like Christianity as necessary to solve what you feel are degrading trends in our societies, then make the separation and differentiation between these two opposite theologies and messages real clear for people. It is basic human responsibility to be clear on bad and good. Wendell Krossa

This is about the most basic project of humanity across the millennia- discerning between bad and good, rejecting the bad and embracing the good. This is fundamental to our exodus and liberation from our animal past to continue our progress toward becoming maturely human in liberal democracy civilization. This is the grand meta-story of humanity, central to the meaning and purpose of being human.

The issue and point in much comment below…

The core themes/message of one (i.e. Historical Jesus) affirm basic liberal democracy principles and institutions such as the universal inclusion of all as equals with equal rights and freedoms under Classic Liberal laws and representative institutions. His themes affirm the non-domination of mutual service in free societies (i.e. no lording over but serve others), and restorative justice approaches toward imperfect others.

The opposite themes of Paul’s Christ affirm Hellenist/Platonic principles of elite domination and control of commoners (i.e. Plato’s “Philosopher Kings” as special elites more qualified to rule all others and framed by Paul in his “Lord” Jesus Christ as the ultimate dominating ruler). Paul’s Christology also affirms discriminatory exclusion of dissenters (i.e. “unbelievers” banned, silenced, damned/exterminated). His retaliatory, vengeful theology affirms harshly merciless punitive justice approaches.

(“His retaliatory, vengeful theology”? Yes, he stated that by quoting an Old Testament verse in Romans 12: 17-20 as his rejection of the unconditional theology of Jesus. He re-affirmed the theology of a retaliatory, destroying God.)

Historians, like Arthur Herman in his “The Cave and the Light: Plato Versus Aristotle, and the Struggle for the Soul of Western Civilization”, have done some interesting tracing of the historical line of descent of these differing ideas and principles (i.e. Plato’s ideas of elites ruling collectives descended down through to Hegel and then to Marx, whereas Aristotle’s more “individual freedoms and rights” ideas descended to affirm modern liberal democracy principles).

And yes, we do become just like the ultimate Ideals or deity that we believe in.

Continuing…

I asked several AI to look at the Luke 4: 16-30 incident where Jewish believers erupted with murderous rage in response to Jesus’ introduction, for the first time in public, of his stunning new theology of a non-retaliatory, unconditional God. He did so after first rejecting the long-standing image of the Zoroastrian vengeful God that has shaped all three great Western religions (i.e. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam). Read the rest of the opening comment here

Posted in Uncategorized | Comments Off on The psychology driving defensive rage at challenges to fundamental religious beliefs.

Bob Brinsmead’s new Substack article on “The Creation of Christ” (i.e. how Hellenism shaped Paul’s Christ myth), also AI summaries of sections below, posts to a discussion list

It is my habit to post new blogging comment, often repeating issues and themes that are central to the main concerns of this site, and then get AI to analyze and summarize what I have posted.

They have the skills to summarize things and sometimes give fairly decent analyses if asked.

Latest…

Grok, Your analysis and summary of the topics presented on the top two sections on

http://www.wendellkrossa.com/

The sections are titled:

The most consequential revolutions in history have been psychological and theological”

And

Breaking the darkening/enslaving chains of the apocalyptic curse on humanity- Start with admitting that it has always been a great fraud”

Grok replied:

The first section is a blog post dated May 14, 2026, titled “The most consequential revolutions in history have been psychological and theological.”

Wendell Krossa argues that the deepest, most transformative changes in human history occur not primarily through politics or technology, but at the level of core beliefs, psychology, and theology— specifically the foundational ideas about ultimate reality (God/deity), human nature, and how we should respond to others (especially “enemies”). These “archetypal” themes shape societies, motivations, emotions, and behaviors across generations. Read the rest of the opening comment here

Posted in Uncategorized | Comments Off on Bob Brinsmead’s new Substack article on “The Creation of Christ” (i.e. how Hellenism shaped Paul’s Christ myth), also AI summaries of sections below, posts to a discussion list

“The most consequential revolutions in history have been psychological and theological”

Coming soon– Some very interesting input (from Grok, Anthropic Claude) on why the battle for AI supremacy matters so much. It’s a battle for liberal democracy now under threat from resurging Marxist collectivism through its modern variants, as well as similar threat to overthrow liberal democracy and replace it with totalitarianism from theocracy crusades such as from the Iranian leadership (differing from the main Iranian populace).

This battle for freedom against surging totalitarianism gets to archetypal-level transformation as Anthropic Claude says, “The most consequential revolutions in human history have not been political or technological but psychological and theological”.

The coming material is also more on answering General Nagata’s concern that we have not yet defeated “the idea” that drives eruptions of violence and war like that of ISIS in Syria (2014). This is more on “It’s the theology, stupid”.

Also more on the archetypal-level revolution presented by wisdom sage Historical Jesus with his “stunning new unconditional theology” that went directly to the core idea/belief in human narratives, a fundamental transformation that Paul subsequently rejected in his retreat to reaffirming the dominant archetype of wrathful, retaliatory deity at the center of his Christ-ianity. That then shaped subsequent Western narratives and society more than any other idea/belief/theme as historians like James Tabor have argued (“Paul and Jesus”).

Historians like Richard Landes have detailed the outcomes of Paul’s myth in shaping Marxism, Nazism, and now environmental alarmism.

Now the new stuff… Read the rest of the opening comment here

Posted in Uncategorized | Comments Off on “The most consequential revolutions in history have been psychological and theological”

Breaking the darkening/enslaving chains of the apocalyptic curse on humanity- Start with admitting that it has always been a great fraud

More “holy shitoli” admission from the climate apocalypse crusade, Wendell Krossa (a new springboard for commentary)

See Watts below on the IPCC using a “weasel word” for “impossible” and admitting the end of another apocalyptic crusade.

While there are varied good studies on the social psychology level of what drives modern apocalyptic “madness of crowds” crusades (i.e. Arthur Herman’s “The Idea of Decline in Western History”, Kristian Niemietz’s “Socialism: The Failed Idea That Never Dies”, etc.), this site focuses on the archetypal level as a critical factor in solving General Nagata’s concern that we have to defeat the “idea” behind violent apocalyptic crusades like Islamic theocracy.

“Archetypal level”? As in the deeply embedded factors in human subconscious that have long been shaped by primitive mythological themes like “lost paradise, life declining to a worse state, toward apocalyptic ending, demand for salvation through sacrifice and a purging of impurity from the world, promise of salvation in a restored paradise or new utopia, etc.”. These archetypal themes (and the impulses they validate) subtly influence moderns to continue embracing narratives with the same themes, whether religious or ideological. They grant people “emotional satisfaction” in the embrace of familiar themes/beliefs/ideas. No matter the harmful outcomes to themselves or their societies. Leading examples- socialist collectivism, environmental alarmism, theocratic crusades.

Moving along… The Watts article further below (“A Generation of Kids Thinks They Have No Future”) illustrates my repeated argument here that the environmental alarmism movement has always been a “profoundly religious crusade” driven more by apocalyptic mythology than by rational science. So also, the same mythology has driven Marxist revolutions (despite claims to “scientific materialism/history”), just as it drove Nazism and other apocalyptic crusades across history. Read the rest of the opening comment here

Posted in Uncategorized | Comments Off on Breaking the darkening/enslaving chains of the apocalyptic curse on humanity- Start with admitting that it has always been a great fraud

Pushing AI to get the point- The same primitive beliefs/themes that continue to structure our narratives

See below a clip of Konstantin Kistin (“Triggernometry”) on why every socialist society ends in totalitarianism.

My recent “tussle”, in the link below, with several of the main AI- i.e. notably Google’s AI Overview, Grok, and Chatgpt. I pushed them on how certain dominant themes from primitive mythologies (i.e. the “apocalyptic millennialism”, or “salvation through violent destruction”, that was formalized in Zoroaster’s cosmic dualism) that these themes have continued to prominently shape modern human narratives, both religious and secular, with destructive outcomes for our societies.

Note that I had to challenge Chat for responding with its usual excessive cautionary qualifying. That qualifying weakens critical points that have to be made against clearly dominant trends in the public discourse of our contemporary world.

At stake in these issues is the protection and continued survival of liberal democracies that are under constant threat from Marxist collectivism, apocalyptic environmentalism, and religious theocracy, all committed to replacing liberal democracy with their varied totalitarianisms. Read the rest of the opening comment here

Posted in Uncategorized | Comments Off on Pushing AI to get the point- The same primitive beliefs/themes that continue to structure our narratives